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  1. RR

    Honestly I disappointed with desktop AIR progress for non-games. I always thought about it as about replacement for Java where you really don’t need all Java features. But in last 2 years Adobe just repeat Titanoum way: release -> lack of changes compared to mobile -> oblivion -> moving to mobile only “cross-platformness”. I still can’t find StageVideo support in desktop version of player. I still don’t understand why Linux was dropped from supported platforms list as MaxOS is more or less *nix. Ok, it could be expensive to support ALL linux platforms, but why not keep support just for Ubuntu? Why not make Linux version OpenSource?

    It’s really sad that there is no other production ready cross-platform solutions for desktop applications developement except of Java and QT. I mean not new HTML5 player-like “applications” but serious solutions with possible(!) deep system integration (something similar to Native extensions or JNA). Good point is only fact that JavaFX trying to become more friendly to designers and similar to Flex.



    1. Thanks for chiming in here and letting people know your perspective – Flash devs have never had it easy but the past few years have been brutal. I’ve always said that the only ones who could ever truly kill Flash are Adobe. Take that however you like.

  2. Stuart

    Adobe needs to stay profitable to stay in business – if that means a focus on games and video “for now” – then that still means a huge investment in AIR – so excellent. From a Mobile perspective – we still have 3 of the 4 platforms (yea with issues but still). ASNext – you know that would have brought a nightmare of backwards compatibility and for what exactly? Windows Modern UI (are they kidding with that name?!) – the market share is next to nothing – when it grows and Adobe do release support – all we’ll need to do is maybe work on a few ANEs and submit our apps to the store. We all know that AIR/AS3 is way ahead – let’s not freak out when Adobe decides to cash in some of that lead to focus on games and video. It makes sense – and they will support Modern UI because soon enough, that will make sense too. Surely dropping Linux was for the same reason – focus and develop strongly – one mountain at a time. Flex now with Apache – AIR clearly heavily invested in – and our community far from dead. What I see are some smart decisions by some very smart people – we need a LONG term vision and this is what I see – this is a very good thing.


    1. That is what has people spooked though. We do need a long term vision and the previous roadmap specifically addressed this stating that work on the new runtime/VM/language was to “ensure that the platform stays viable over the next decade”. That’s strong, positive language that just isn’t there any longer.

      1. Stuart

        Surely this is implied with the focus on games and video? That’s a huge, well-funded developer market. A successful implementation would mean a boost to our community and Adobe’s bottom line. Support for Game Consoles, Set top Boxes, etc – think of what this means for our apps…

        Surely, in turn, success on this gamer/streamer path will ensure that “work on the new runtime/VM/language” will happen? I believe so – I believe that the direction we saw is still there behind closed doors and will still happen – it has to – it makes sense.

        The fact we have ANEs means that we’re not bound by the limitations of AIR, again giving time for Adobe to focus for a while. Yes, more work for us, lots of re factoring – lots of workarounds – but all doable and worth it, particularly when replacing our ANEs happens in days/weeks rather than months.

        Our browsing the web via a browser or browser plugin is slowly becoming less and less necessary – of course very slowly! The browser plugin used to be the driving force now, Adobe have said, “Adobe AIR and Flash Player browser plug-in releases will be increasingly synchronized” – I believe this highlights the presence of long term vision.

        So long as Adobe continue to develop AIR (which makes so much sense) and our community continue to develop FLEX (why wouldn’t we!), our own projects will surely have a solid future.

        1. Joel T.

          Browser plugin of Flash Player will always be there, if powerful game developed by Flash and premium video features that rely on Flash Player on the web couldn’t be replaced by HTML5. Adobe is smart enough to focus on gaming and premium video, these are the things HTML5 is way way behind Flash.

  3. David

    Do you think flash still have feature ? I think, from Adobe side, everything is HTML5 + javascript. This is part of Thibault tweets:

    @flashandmath: A new book? How interesting. Can you reveal the topic?
    @thibault_imbert: yes, JavaScript.


  4. I completely understand what Adobe’s current thinking and plans around core Flash functionality contained within Flash Player and Adobe AIR. I actually follow Developing Adobe Air Applications and got so many information and knowledge. You also can try.

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